Bull's Shyt #2

[BULL]

Wow...@ 199...it takes an extra 50 HP to break 200...would lowering the car say 2 inches have any effect @ all

bhp is the same as wheel hp, so 750bhp is ~890hp at the crank, and that's just so you can get to 200 in ONLY a mile, with more space, and good air, you can do it stock (almost)

Edit: see below

 

[drag racer]

i think you mean 750whp (wheel) ~890bhp? brake and crank hp basically the same thing. wheel includes driveline losses, and must be less than brake/crank hp

 

[BULL]

Bhp = whp

Literally the same as applying the brakes

Crank only includes accessories (per SAE)

Edit: I'm wrong, see below

 

[MiHiHemi]

707hp gets us to 199mph, obviously in decent DA and enough space.

The guys down at the Kennedy Space Center (2mile course) were coming right up to that.

Not that it's still running, but at the Colorado Mile, if you were running ~750bhp in a Challenger, that got you to ~200mph in the mile.

Was that what you were asking, or something different??

Mostly that our cars are designed more like a brick than a knife to cut through the air at those speeds. I would think one would need a much lower drag coefficient, than we have, to run in the 200 mph range...no matter the HP.

 

[1971demon]

666

I called...her lines busy...

 

[Speedy!]

Definitely 1200cc FIC for E85 and I'd plan a flex tune for daily and a dedicated E85 tune for the mile.

I’m wondering if the aero on these things would ever let us get to 200.

My buddy Sam holds the record in a Challenger (RT at that) as far as I know at 212.8MPH in the TX Mile. He set that record in his 2009 R/T some years back and I don't believe it has fallen. Of course it had loads of upgrades, was Twin Turbo, etc and was an M6 car as well. We did play with aero just a bit with some plastic wrap and picked up 3-4mph.

 

[MiHiHemi]

Definitely 1200cc FIC for E85 and I'd plan a flex tune for daily and a dedicated E85 tune for the mile.



My buddy Sam holds the record in a Challenger (RT at that) as far as I know at 212.8MPH in the TX Mile. He set that record in his 2009 R/T some years back and I don't believe it has fallen. Of course it had loads of upgrades, was Twin Turbo, etc and was an M6 car as well. We did play with aero just a bit with some plastic wrap and picked up 3-4mph.

Nice! Good info. to now know...thanks!

 

[Hickster]

Yea,,, she is doing a hit for me right now. She will be free when de skins these fellers. She makes saddles for the boy scouts.

 

[jroyk]

Bhp = whp

Literally the same as applying the brakes

Crank only includes accessories (per SAE)

Everything I’ve seen says bhp is at the flywheel or crank. In the sixties hp was always stated by manufacturers as bhp. No one talked about whp. I’ve been wrong once before in my life, this could be the second time.
https://sciencestruck.com/what-is-bhp-brake-horsepower

https://mechstuff.com/what-is-brake-horsepower-bhp-vs-hp/

 

[Hickster]

BHP

 

[BULL]

i think you mean 750whp (wheel) ~890bhp? brake and crank hp basically the same thing. wheel includes driveline losses, and must be less than brake/crank hp

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the-difference-between-bhp-and-whp-explained/


Well I grew up learning a different kind of "BHP", again, from the literal idea of using the vehicles brakes (after, and therefor including drivetrain losses)...

 

[1971demon]

Everything I’ve seen says bhp is at the flywheel or crank. In the sixties hp was always stated by manufacturers as bhp. No one talked about whp. I’ve been wrong once before in my life, this could be the second time.
https://sciencestruck.com/what-is-bhp-brake-horsepower

https://mechstuff.com/what-is-brake-horsepower-bhp-vs-hp/

Are you still payin for the first time you were wrong

 

[1971demon]

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the-difference-between-bhp-and-whp-explained/


Well I grew up learning a different kind of "BHP", again, from the literal idea of using the vehicles brakes (after, and therefor including drivetrain losses)...

after takin this all in....kinda glad I never grew up...

 

[Hpindy]

There was a point in time where bigger injectors caused issues with drivability. But with modern tuning capabilities this isn’t an issue anymore.

so i shouldn't throw some 2100's in for pump gas ???

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[Hpindy]

I’m wondering if the aero on these things would ever let us get to 200.

A demon went 211 or 213 mph .. ( i forgot the exact number )

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[Hickster]

Our brother from Maderia Beach went over 200 on the Flats 6 months ago. Mr 6 Gun. If not mistaken.

 

[jonx96]

so i shouldn't throw some 2100's in for pump gas ???

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😂 I wish I went bigger

 

[BULL]

😂 I wish I went bigger

Hey, don't we all...

 

[Hickster]

Ha,,,,, I still have time. Thanks.

 

[jroyk]

😂 I wish I went bigger

That’s what …. Never mind, too easy.