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Man these wheels are big....

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Car had a vibration at every speed so knew it wasn't balance. Made them pull the wheels and put them on a balancer in front of me, seems test driving might not be your friend, 2 hops. 2 new wheels arrived today at my local dealer, since the one that sold me the car was 5 hours away.
Damn these are big, glad I was in my truck. I mean big! I assumed drop them in my oversized trunk run them in with the car for change out. Shewww


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And now you know why I balance the tires on a new vehicle as soon as I get it.
Yes, the Challengers come with better balance than, say, a Ram, but it's still usually not very good.
 


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And now you know why I balance the tires on a new vehicle as soon as I get it.
Yes, the Challengers come with better balance than, say, a Ram, but it's still usually not very good.
Huh? Not sure what you said. The wheels were bent, they replaced them. I picked them up in my truck. They both don't fit in my trunk of the challenger as big as it is. My response is basically they are very big wheels, can't believe these fit in the front of the car either. Love the WB!

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Okay, you started out saying it wasn't balance, which it turned out to be.
Then I pointed out that I put my tires and wheels on the balancer as soon as I get a new (or new to me) vehicle, to avoid dealing with vibration issues and to find problems like what you described.

Guess I missed the the real point of your post, apparently being that wide wheels are...well, wide.
 


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Seems the Demon and 1320 aren't the only cars getting knurled wheels from the factory. Very interesting.
 


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Okay, you started out saying it wasn't balance, which it turned out to be.
Then I pointed out that I put my tires and wheels on the balancer as soon as I get a new (or new to me) vehicle, to avoid dealing with vibration issues and to find problems like what you described.

Guess I missed the the real point of your post, apparently being that wide wheels are...well, wide.
Sorry, you miss understood, we could see the wheel hop from the inside of the rim

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So those were OE wheels, that came on your car as delivered?

Man, I used to have faith in whatever came stock, but I guess those days are over, too. Well, steel wheels I always expect a bit of run-out from, but not aluminum.

This makes me want to throw my '18's stock wheels on the balancer and check them. They didn't feel unbalanced, but came off almost instantly, so they were never subjected to anything over 55 mph.
 


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Im surprised no one commented they are made in China

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So those were OE wheels, that came on your car as delivered?

Man, I used to have faith in whatever came stock, but I guess those days are over, too. Well, steel wheels I always expect a bit of run-out from, but not aluminum.

This makes me want to throw my '18's stock wheels on the balancer and check them. They didn't feel unbalanced, but came off almost instantly, so they were never subjected to anything over 55 mph.
Could have been damaged anywhere along the way from the manufacturer, to the upfitter, to the lot. Seems circumstantial.
 


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Yeah, the after-the-fact thought entered my mind, too. Let's just hope they weren't on the car when they got bent.
 


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Im surprised no one commented they are made in China
I'm getting used to that, unfortunately. Ram duallys, for example, came with (optional) Alcoa wheels until '16, then Ram switched to Chinese copies.
And yes, there is a difference, at least visually. How they differ in strength, I don't know.
 


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Rotating these tires is not for the faint of heart. Even a man of average strength would have trouble lifting the tire/wheel. They are damn big and heavy.
 


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Rotating these tires is not for the faint of heart. Even a man of average strength would have trouble lifting the tire/wheel. They are damn big and heavy.
Wanna compare Wilks scores, brah?
 


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Rotating these tires is not for the faint of heart. Even a man of average strength would have trouble lifting the tire/wheel. They are damn big and heavy.
Umm, you have probably never handled 16" wide, 36-inch trail tires on steel wheels, let alone 24.5s (as on tractor trailers).
In comparison, the dainty tires and wheels on a Challenger are a joy to place on the tire machine and balancer.
 


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Wanna compare Wilks scores, brah?
Not sure what that is but I’m guessing some kind of strength test? All I know is I am 5’10” and could dunk a basketball one or two hands or backwards before I shattered my ankle. That’s real world strength very few people under 6 feet can claim unless top flight athlete. Everyone has their strength claims to fame. That’s mine and I think it’s a good one. I still ride my bike like a madman up hills. I prefer this type of strength than just lifting iron.
 


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Wanna compare Wilks scores, brah?
What does someone's Wilks score have to do with the wheel weight?
 


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What does someone's Wilks score have to do with the wheel weight?
We're talking about the strength needed to functionally handle and manipulate these massive wheels and tires. For the uneducated: Wilks takes into consideration your height, weight, and total weight from your squat, deadlift, and bench press - it is then given a factor for age and sex.

Thus, if you have good Wilks score moving the wheels around is going to be a minor issue. I was joking Bro. Brah. Bro. Brosef.

My TBSS has 20x10 with 305/50R20s on them... those were a treat swapping daily on Drag Week.
 


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We're talking about the strength needed to functionally handle and manipulate these massive wheels and tires. For the uneducated: Wilks takes into consideration your height, weight, and total weight from your squat, deadlift, and bench press - it is then given a factor for age and sex.

Thus, if you have good Wilks score moving the wheels around is going to be a minor issue. I was joking Bro. Brah. Bro. Brosef.

My TBSS has 20x10 with 305/50R20s on them... those were a treat swapping daily on Drag Week.
For the uneducated??

Most people aren't powerlifters so they may not be familiar with the Wilks formula.
 


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For the uneducated??

Most people aren't powerlifters so they may not be familiar with the Wilks formula.
Hence me saving them the time to Google it. Nothing said here was directed at you, chiiiiiiiilllllll brough.
 




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