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Don't forget about the EPA sticking their fingers in the tune. Dodge will still need compliance for the emissions in order to sell it
I thought e85 was a big reducer of emissions compared to gas powered cars.
Even regular gas has 10% of ethanol in it.

What could the EPA want at this point?

I do think this car will have the bigger 3.0L blower on it.


It could possibly be a 426 iron block Hellcat with the 3.0L but I think that require a lot more money/engine complexity than what they have time to deal with.

15% drive train loss on the 885hp DC kit gets you to 1015ish hp range.


I said before, the biggest unknown is if this will have the Demon/1320 Suspension or not. Because they said only 1 Demon, I don't think so. But if they really wanted to run that 9 flat that NHRA is now allowing them to do, they just might.

In fact, I think they try to make it run an 8.90 just to be faster than the Plaid. And claim that "Banned" and "Fastest" car title back.
 


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Absolutely. If Cali wants to have their own rules then just exclude them. They’d have no issue selling out the production run in the other 49 states. Besides Cali don’t want ICE vehicles sold there anyway so they can help their cause.
Tell them they have to sell all their new Demons before they get any allocations for this final Hellcat
 


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Dodge (and everybody else) should just go the "49-state" route and be done with it...
I agree, unfortunately other states are jumping in with CA. I don't see any of the manufactures concluding that it would be worthwhile to make 49 - quite a few other states, state cars.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/09/17-u-s-states-mulling-californias-ev-mandate/
A total of seventeen U.S. states are mulling over whether or not to follow California’s lead and implement a total ban on the sale of new gasoline-powered passenger vehicles by 2035 to help drive EV sales.
According to the Associated Press, Washington, Massachusetts, New York, Oregon and Vermont are highly likely to introduce the California-style gas car ban, while the idea is facing more pushback in states like Minnesota and Virginia.

The only answer is voting out the left. Well the only non-violent answer.
 


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I thought e85 was a big reducer of emissions compared to gas powered cars.
Even regular gas has 10% of ethanol in it.

What could the EPA want at this point?

I do think this car will have the bigger 3.0L blower on it.


It could possibly be a 426 iron block Hellcat with the 3.0L but I think that require a lot more money/engine complexity than what they have time to deal with.

15% drive train loss on the 885hp DC kit gets you to 1015ish hp range.


I said before, the biggest unknown is if this will have the Demon/1320 Suspension or not. Because they said only 1 Demon, I don't think so. But if they really wanted to run that 9 flat that NHRA is now allowing them to do, they just might.

In fact, I think they try to make it run an 8.90 just to be faster than the Plaid. And claim that "Banned" and "Fastest" car title back.
Pulleys and e85 on a 2.7 you could get in the 8s. A 426 and/or 3.0 would just make it easier
 


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I agree, unfortunately other states are jumping in with CA. I don't see any of the manufactures concluding that it would be worthwhile to make 49 - quite a few other states, state cars.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/09/17-u-s-states-mulling-californias-ev-mandate/
A total of seventeen U.S. states are mulling over whether or not to follow California’s lead and implement a total ban on the sale of new gasoline-powered passenger vehicles by 2035 to help drive EV sales.
According to the Associated Press, Washington, Massachusetts, New York, Oregon and Vermont are highly likely to introduce the California-style gas car ban, while the idea is facing more pushback in states like Minnesota and Virginia.

The only answer is voting out the left. Well the only non-violent answer.
At this time only the Bluest of Blue states are considering jumping on the Newsom bandwagon ban. The Red states will continue to think with logic and not adapt those crazy ideas that are unsustainable. Those poor bastards in Minnesota will find out real quick how the cold effects the Li-Ion batteries if they push forward on the EV craze
 


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X, you may have great connections inside Dodge or accreditation as a journalist or something, and I appreciate you what you're doing, but without at least some small explanation of why the information you are putting out should be counted as coming from a trusted source, it is hard to take it very seriously. I'm not saying blow your source or anything like that, but at least give an idea why we should be listening and giving credit to the video. Hope you get through the storm without problems. Been there.
 


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How is it still "49 states" when 15 states have gone batshit crazy and adopted California emissions criteria under the clean air act. Wouldnt those states also be excluded? Im sure they are next to jump on the Eliminate ICE by2035 bandwagon.Or is it just a "we stand with the loonies but we dont necessarily enforce it much" type thing? How the Fk did we allow ONE state to dictate the trainwreck we are now seeing
 


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How is it still "49 states" when 15 states have gone batshit crazy and adopted California emissions criteria under the clean air act. Wouldnt those states also be excluded? Im sure they are next to jump on the Eliminate ICE by2035 bandwagon.Or is it just a "we stand with the loonies but we dont necessarily enforce it much" type thing? How the Fk did we allow ONE state to dictate the trainwreck we are now seeing
Hell.... The clueless Hochul just announced this morning they will be 68% all EV by 2035, talk about the blind leading the blind. Can these politicians even conceive with one ioda of common sense or logic. EV's are a science experiment much like the Kung-Flu shot so many knuckleheads got. They will find that supporting a communist regime that controls most of the rare earth elements for these batteries is only helping our foreign adversaries pocket book. Those green machines overall are more damaging to the environment from mining & processing the minerals and then most of the electricity comes from fossil fuels. What a bunch of dumb shits :mad:
 


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Hell.... The clueless Hochul just announced this morning they will be 68% all EV by 2035, talk about the blind leading the blind. Can these politicians even conceive with one ioda of common sense or logic. EV's are a science experiment much like the Kung-Flu shot so many knuckleheads got. They will find that supporting a communist regime that controls most of the rare earth elements for these batteries is only helping our foreign adversaries pocket book. Those green machines overall are more damaging to the environment from mining & processing the minerals and then most of the electricity comes from fossil fuels. What a bunch of dumb shits :mad:
Lets be honest, Biden, Pelosi etc will all be dead by 2035. They don't give a shit
 


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How is it still "49 states" when 15 states have gone batshit crazy and adopted California emissions criteria under the clean air act. Wouldnt those states also be excluded? Im sure they are next to jump on the Eliminate ICE by2035 bandwagon.Or is it just a "we stand with the loonies but we dont necessarily enforce it much" type thing? How the Fk did we allow ONE state to dictate the trainwreck we are now seeing
This is the flip side to "states rights"
 


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Butterflies are beautiful mind set more than ever sadly.
 


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Well I am doing my part today to piss off the Butterfly crowd😁. Taking my EV and uhm well yeh……stay tuned😜
 


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Well I am doing my part today to piss off the Butterfly crowd😁. Taking my EV and uhm well yeh……stay tuned😜
Send pictures dad!
 


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2021 Redeye WOW just got her traded Ev for Ice
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What did you give if you don't mind my asking? Trying to guage real.market while sitting here doing state sales.tax.reporting
Dealer showed me auction price. They personally got her just for me and I am in big with this dealer. They showed me auction purchase of $85,700 and sold me at 88k. They had to pay a trucking company to get her from Pa to Baltimore so they claim 2k on the deal. But they gave me 66k for my Mach E that was originally 69k.
 


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Pretty decent deal.
 


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Dealer showed me auction price. They personally got her just for me and I am in big with this dealer. They showed me auction purchase of $85,700 and sold me at 88k. They had to pay a trucking company to get her from Pa to Baltimore so they claim 2k on the deal. But they gave me 66k for my Mach E that was originally 69k.
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Dealer showed me auction price. They personally got her just for me and I am in big with this dealer. They showed me auction purchase of $85,700 and sold me at 88k. They had to pay a trucking company to get her from Pa to Baltimore so they claim 2k on the deal. But they gave me 66k for my Mach E that was originally 69k.
Manheim car?
 


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